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Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.12 20:42:00 -
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Karbowiak wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Dante Uisen wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:I'm very sure that you can't modify 30 orders within a minute - whether with macros or by hand. You can use the in-game browser to display market data, which makes it a trivial task to write software that detects when you need to update you orders. All you need to do is use javascript to cycle trough the item you want to sell, this updates the local cache which you can parse to get the items sell prices. From there on all you need to do is verify the weather or not you have the lowest price. You can list the correct price need to undercut by .1 isk, or maybe even manipulate the copy/paste buffer directly to contain the correct value. In the end all you need to do is find the correct order, edit and paste the value. It probably takes more then 2 sec for reach order, but you can do a lot of orders each minute. This is a public know and legal way of managing market orders. I would not recommend anyone do this and I'd ask that you not tell our players what you consider to be legal. The EULA does a decent enough job of that and is contrary to your statement. Did you just outlaw: 1. using the cache files to get information 2. using javascript to alter the paste buffer 3. regular use of the IGB javascript functions Cause it sure as hell sounds like it. Doing any of these things aren't illegal according to the EULA, but i guess using your own tools to give ourselves an advantage in these kind of situations, is botting. 
Yip sounds like it, since I'm pretty sure that's what John was doing, but nope must be botting ban. |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.12 23:42:00 -
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Can someone explain to me, without using any derogatory language, or calling others names, why we are all hating on Keldrum? |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:30:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Cool, how about we call it "hacking the game client" or "automating game actions" or "roboting the game" or something?
-Liang
You're an idiot, reading the game cache is not botting.
ITT: People hating on Kelduum because a) they are ******** and don't actually read his posts or b) just because |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:32:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:CCP > Whoops. Yeah, that's bot ISK. Deletes ISK THIS IS YOUR FORMAL NOTIFICATION THAT THIS IS BOT ISK
IOK you are definitely a troll since this never happened, CCP stonewalled him on the explanation until Sreegs replied. |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:38:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Shamon Hussad wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:CCP > Whoops. Yeah, that's bot ISK. Deletes ISK THIS IS YOUR FORMAL NOTIFICATION THAT THIS IS BOT ISK IOK you are definitely a troll since this never happened, CCP stonewalled him on the explanation until Sreegs replied. Paragraph 15 in Kelduum's OP on Eve-University Forums states this:
I'm sorry I can't see exactly where CCP game him the formal notification that it was a bot, or even told him exactly what the reason was, can you copy paste it, I must be blind. |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:45:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote:Please elaborate on this. Would you argue that "John" was wrongfully banned and that his accelerated market order update routines aren't just another form of botting?
On what grounds would you challenge the investigation done by CCP?
Oh no, if it's like they say and he was botting, then yeah ban ahead, not arguing with that, but only if what he was doing was against the current EULA. I'm arguing against people attacking Kelduum for no apparent reason to me. |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:47:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:This why the defenders look like idiots.
Im sorry and I really dont mean to offend but you all sound so disingenuous when you say **** like this.
Its almost comical at this point.
But I seriously cannot see what he is talking about, since no one said he was botting until Sreegs came along, so how could Kelduum be supporting botting? |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:53:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Shamon Hussad wrote:
Oh no, if it's like they say and he was botting, then yeah ban ahead
Ok, so you agree that he was botting. Cool.
Man your reading comprehension is off the charts. |
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Shamon Hussad wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:This why the defenders look like idiots.
Im sorry and I really dont mean to offend but you all sound so disingenuous when you say **** like this.
Its almost comical at this point.
But I seriously cannot see what he is talking about, since no one said he was botting until Sreegs came along You mean besides Kelduum.
Uhh no, before Sreegs posted Kelduum only asked twice if it was in relation to apparently botting. |
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:01:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Callie Cross wrote:
If Kelduum really thought he was botting and the money was from botting, why would he petition it??? Hate Kelduum all you want, but dear god, the guy isn't stupid. Give him credit for that at least.
Clearly, he didn't think the ISK was dirty, or he wouldn't have risked it.
Hmmm..... Callie Cross wrote:
If Kelduum really thought he wasn't botting and the money wasn't from botting, why would he petition it??? Hate Kelduum all you want, but dear god, the guy isn't stupid. Give him credit for that at least.
Clearly, he did think the ISK was dirty, or he wouldn't have risked it.
Right. That's exactly correct now. -Liang
Wow, troll of the year award, no one can be that stupid. The sentence you changed it to doesn't even make sense to the context. Of course he would petition it if he thought John wasn't botting and the money wasn't from botting. |
Shamon Hussad
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Posted - 2013.02.13 01:35:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:The truth is that "John" wrote a program to accelerate his trades and he was banned for botting.
Using the cache files to get information, using javascript to alter the paste buffer, and regular use of the IGB javascript functions.
Doing any of these things aren't illegal according to the EULA, |
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